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    Re: Any recommendations internal speaker wire?

    mah,

    I only "put down" YOU in this thread, as a result of your third post, #18, when you deserved it.

    Lets all get that straight.

    Answering your question, about my referral of that insightful post, is easy,

    Mr. Fraker spelled out about nine different ways, one " loses" it, in the audio amp, and he is talking of high efficiency speakers, uses GPAs himself,

    ONE way to lose it, is with wire, and he mentions it !!

    To quote :

    " Speaker cables are a big issue here. You can
    easily lose the whole thing in those cables alone. "



    My own contributions in this wire thread, specifically details to others how NOT to "lose it", at least, to the very best of my own understanding and ability. This is rather evident.



    Jeff Medwin ............Low Ohms
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    Re: Any recommendations internal speaker wire?

    Jeff, you put down everyone that doesn't subscribe to your baseless babble. According to you, all of us are running garbage amps, have wired everything with garbage wire and most importantly are not using Fulton lengths!
    I'm sick and tired of you non stop repeating yourself.
    Please take another sabbatical, this time for a long time.

    BillWojo

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    Re: Any recommendations internal speaker wire?

    Quote Originally Posted by BillWojo View Post
    Jeff, you put down everyone that doesn't subscribe to your baseless babble. According to you, all of us are running garbage amps, have wired everything with garbage wire and most importantly are not using Fulton lengths!
    I'm sick and tired of you non stop repeating yourself.
    Please take another sabbatical, this time for a long time.

    BillWojo
    No, I only put down mah - recently, when he got in my face. I did have an early go or two with you, but, after having a nice conversation with Todd White, one time, have since changed my approach.

    You may not like me speaking my mind, as to what I find works, but I intend to do that Bill, as I see fit.

    This is America, we have freedom to responsibly speak our minds. You have the freedom, not to read any post I put up.

    Best wishes,

    Jeff Medwin

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    Re: Any recommendations internal speaker wire?

    As posted by LowOhms, #19

    a) It takes a proper amp, 99.9% of them flunk-out, ( D- to F- ) if you seek the BEST possible ALTEC listening result, which "I" do.

    Need I say more. Seems that only you and a few of your guru's customers have anything worth listening to. The rest of us have amps that "flunk-out", if that is not insulting, I don't know what is.
    I mean, were in the D- to F- category, now excuse me while I carry my MC40 monoblocks to the trash can and put my Altecs on the curb.
    Seems I am delusional as the the fine outstanding sound that this combo makes. Only you and your guru seem to know what works best.

    BillWojo

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    Re: Any recommendations internal speaker wire?

    I agree there is not one "best" way to setup an Altec system. There are many good ways.

    As a group, I know we all use different types of Altec speakers, different amps, and wire etc. with excellent results.

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    Re: Any recommendations internal speaker wire?

    Quote Originally Posted by BillWojo View Post
    As posted by LowOhms, #19

    a) It takes a proper amp, 99.9% of them flunk-out, ( D- to F- ) if you seek the BEST possible ALTEC listening result, which "I" do.

    Need I say more. Seems that only you and a few of your guru's customers have anything worth listening to. The rest of us have amps that "flunk-out", if that is not insulting, I don't know what is.
    I mean, were in the D- to F- category, now excuse me while I carry my MC40 monoblocks to the trash can and put my Altecs on the curb.
    Seems I am delusional as the the fine outstanding sound that this combo makes. Only you and your guru seem to know what works best.

    BillWojo

    Bill,

    The Mac 60 monos, not a 40, is the best sounding of that whole group.

    There is a LOT better sounding amplification, available today to an open-minded, and open-eared listener, than a McIntosh MC40, which one can use with a well set-up VOTT.

    You state " Seems that only you and a few of your guru's customers have anything worth listening to.".

    Good Bill, you read me 100% correctly !! Very good !!

    Yes, from what I have heard on ALTECs and GPAs, and even what I build myself as a amateur DIYer, other amps DO flunk. My comments were meant to inform you, not insult. Its the cold, hard truth - just as I hear it, the last ten to twelve years.

    Its such a shame, that I don't still live in Trenton, NJ or Morrisville, PA, where I could easily get over to Burlington, NJ, and insert my newest designed / built 1.3 Watt Type 46 SET amp into your system,. and let you hear that. How informative that would be, for you.

    No, on second thought Bill, ......I couldn't do that, the amp would never get heard - to its full potential.

    I saw photos of your crossover, on AudioKharma an hour ago, and could just imagine, besides having to fully rebuild the crossover (with numerous film bypass caps), I'd have to re-wire your system, from amps to drivers, so you could best hear what is possible with a decent amplifier.

    Oh well, you are invited to Missouri, my place, or best of all, the Denver RMAF show, October 6th through 8th, 2017, to hear for yourself and finally understand, what I am talking about.

    Amps, not speakers, really are the turkeys. I truly believe, very few people have fully heard, what an ALTEC, or GPA driver is totally capable of doing !!

    Jeff Medwin............... Low Ohms

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    Re: Any recommendations internal speaker wire?

    '.... I saw photos of your crossover on AudioKharma(sic).'....(disparaging comments follow)

    Darn, I just returned to AK to get relief from the Medwin verbal sprays.

    Good thing is they have clear participation rules.
    Opinion is only as valid as its verifiable supporting evidence.

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    Re: Any recommendations internal speaker wire?

    Wow, Jeff you completely amaze me over and over with your vast knowledge of audio engineering. Now you as an amateur DIY amp builder can build amplifiers that can put McIntosh Lab tube amps to shame.
    Please post all the specs and graphs for your latest creation such as FR and THD. No, I don't want to hear you babble about how great it sounds, just show us the specs. A great amp will add no coloration or do anything to modify the input signal, a Mac amp is about the best there is for reproducing a signal cleanly.
    Since you seem to be an audio engineer, be it a backyard DIYer, please explain to all of us the theory behind Fulton wire lengths, many of us, or I'd venture a guess here, all of us are still trying to figure that out.
    In short, put some theory and science behind your bizarre claims.

    BillWojo

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